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	<title>Comments on: New OTC Diagnostic Scan Tool &#8211; Pegisys</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Sumrell</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Sumrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen, I still all of my OTC scanners, (2000,4000E,and 3 diff models of genisys. have never had a days worth of problem with any. Yes there have been some coverage holes. I also own a MODIS that I use that I ony bought because snapon bought and did away with EDGE diagnostics. I owned a PACPRO UNIT that blew the other labscopes away at the time but SNAPON killed it when they took over. I think the MODIS is a good tool but way over priced for purchase and updates. I use my VETRONIX / BOSCH MASTERTECH mostly and it blows SNAPPY away and they cost about the same. I&#039;m not slamming any of them, but I have found that TECH&#039;S who owned a SNAPPY unit of any kind think any other brand SUCKS. I have recommended many an OTC to other Techs and most love them. Some quit updating ther SNAPON units. Most decisions depend on available funds and experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen, I still all of my OTC scanners, (2000,4000E,and 3 diff models of genisys. have never had a days worth of problem with any. Yes there have been some coverage holes. I also own a MODIS that I use that I ony bought because snapon bought and did away with EDGE diagnostics. I owned a PACPRO UNIT that blew the other labscopes away at the time but SNAPON killed it when they took over. I think the MODIS is a good tool but way over priced for purchase and updates. I use my VETRONIX / BOSCH MASTERTECH mostly and it blows SNAPPY away and they cost about the same. I&#8217;m not slamming any of them, but I have found that TECH&#8217;S who owned a SNAPPY unit of any kind think any other brand SUCKS. I have recommended many an OTC to other Techs and most love them. Some quit updating ther SNAPON units. Most decisions depend on available funds and experience.</p>
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		<title>By: GMmechanicMike</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-1215</link>
		<dc:creator>GMmechanicMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 18:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I purchased the MAC Navigator(OTC Pegysis) in Febuary. I think they rushed them out before they were ready. The first few month, there were alot of bugs. Now, after a few updates, it works as it should. I feel the monthy internet updates are a great idea. I work at a GM dealership but, use it on all makes and models. It has been atleast a month since I had to use a tech-2 for anything. As for wireless programing, it wokes great. I added the j2534 programing and have not had a problem. I don&#039;t see how anyone can justify the extra $4000-$5000 for the verus. When is the last time you needed a 4 channel scope? If you want internet acces, a stand alone laptop is much better and won&#039;t cost you over $4000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I purchased the MAC Navigator(OTC Pegysis) in Febuary. I think they rushed them out before they were ready. The first few month, there were alot of bugs. Now, after a few updates, it works as it should. I feel the monthy internet updates are a great idea. I work at a GM dealership but, use it on all makes and models. It has been atleast a month since I had to use a tech-2 for anything. As for wireless programing, it wokes great. I added the j2534 programing and have not had a problem. I don&#8217;t see how anyone can justify the extra $4000-$5000 for the verus. When is the last time you needed a 4 channel scope? If you want internet acces, a stand alone laptop is much better and won&#8217;t cost you over $4000.</p>
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		<title>By: dennisb - Auto Tool Sales</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>dennisb - Auto Tool Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 18:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris, Bosch may be alright for some German vehicles. The fact remains that Snap On and OTC are two of the best sellers in the USA for scan tools for a reason. I would also like to see a comparison between more scan tools, but each may have advantages and disadvantages depending on which make, model and system being scanned or diagnosed. In my two decades plus as a Master Tech, I used OTC and Snap On. I maintain that the best all around scan tool for the money (for Domestic &amp; Asian) is the Genisys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris, Bosch may be alright for some German vehicles. The fact remains that Snap On and OTC are two of the best sellers in the USA for scan tools for a reason. I would also like to see a comparison between more scan tools, but each may have advantages and disadvantages depending on which make, model and system being scanned or diagnosed. In my two decades plus as a Master Tech, I used OTC and Snap On. I maintain that the best all around scan tool for the money (for Domestic &amp; Asian) is the Genisys.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the best solution is just to buy Bosch and be done with it. where do you get all the right data when most of it was created and manufactured by Bosch. Makes sense!

I would like to see a third party comparison by someone who is legitimate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the best solution is just to buy Bosch and be done with it. where do you get all the right data when most of it was created and manufactured by Bosch. Makes sense!</p>
<p>I would like to see a third party comparison by someone who is legitimate.</p>
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		<title>By: dennisb - Auto Tool Sales</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-963</link>
		<dc:creator>dennisb - Auto Tool Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RWH, Like you I had a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt1/page_10877_622/mt2500_used_snap_on_scanner_kit_w_black_programmab.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MT2500&lt;/a&gt; scan tool. Then I realized updates cost about as much as a new OTC scan tool with updated software. Also before you decide on the Verus, see Greg&#039;s comment on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/12/the-truth-about-otc-3825-pegisys-verus-scan-tools/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this tool blog&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RWH, Like you I had a <a href="http://www.denlorstools.com/home/dt1/page_10877_622/mt2500_used_snap_on_scanner_kit_w_black_programmab.html" rel="nofollow">MT2500</a> scan tool. Then I realized updates cost about as much as a new OTC scan tool with updated software. Also before you decide on the Verus, see Greg&#8217;s comment on <a href="http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/12/the-truth-about-otc-3825-pegisys-verus-scan-tools/" rel="nofollow">this tool blog</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: RWH</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-962</link>
		<dc:creator>RWH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the battle rages on, OTC or SNAP ON lets look at one more factor. How many scanners did otc build during the life of a mt2500 better known as the brick.mon.2000,4000,4000e and at least 2 more I can think of. All I did was updated my brick for 24 years while otc guys bought new scanners. I did try the modis and genisys side by side in my shop and the the modis was a far better unit, never a mins. trouble all 8 techs picked the modis hands down. Now we are going to upgrade again to the verus. The list price is 8995.00 however if you have a good snapon dealer he will find you one for around 7500.00 and might even have a promo with free euro. Plus who do you see every week if you have a problem, its sure not the otc guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the battle rages on, OTC or SNAP ON lets look at one more factor. How many scanners did otc build during the life of a mt2500 better known as the brick.mon.2000,4000,4000e and at least 2 more I can think of. All I did was updated my brick for 24 years while otc guys bought new scanners. I did try the modis and genisys side by side in my shop and the the modis was a far better unit, never a mins. trouble all 8 techs picked the modis hands down. Now we are going to upgrade again to the verus. The list price is 8995.00 however if you have a good snapon dealer he will find you one for around 7500.00 and might even have a promo with free euro. Plus who do you see every week if you have a problem, its sure not the otc guy.</p>
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		<title>By: john p</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-847</link>
		<dc:creator>john p</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly it is a PC.
So why are we still paying for these overpriced scanners? Everyone knows electronic prices now, a good laptop can be had for $400. They need to drop this insane hardware and sell the software + adapters for easily half that price. At the very least this needs to be a cell phone sales model. Offset the hardware cost with a contract based income, but no.. they of course already rape you with updates that are &quot;important&quot;. I never manage to see $500 difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly it is a PC.<br />
So why are we still paying for these overpriced scanners? Everyone knows electronic prices now, a good laptop can be had for $400. They need to drop this insane hardware and sell the software + adapters for easily half that price. At the very least this needs to be a cell phone sales model. Offset the hardware cost with a contract based income, but no.. they of course already rape you with updates that are &#8220;important&#8221;. I never manage to see $500 difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Long</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-790</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Long</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently purchased a Pegysis and after two bad units , I gave it back.  It was very slow for data and the wireless system failed frequently. Besides; do you really trust reprogramming through a wireless vci? Verus is a pc! buy a laptop, pegysis and spend twice as much time w/diagnosis on flat rate and then compare the prices. Snap On Verus is the only way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently purchased a Pegysis and after two bad units , I gave it back.  It was very slow for data and the wireless system failed frequently. Besides; do you really trust reprogramming through a wireless vci? Verus is a pc! buy a laptop, pegysis and spend twice as much time w/diagnosis on flat rate and then compare the prices. Snap On Verus is the only way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking to purchase a scan tool for domestic vehicles and was considering the Pegisys or Snap On Modis.  Can someone shed some recent light on there experience with either?  Any recommendations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking to purchase a scan tool for domestic vehicles and was considering the Pegisys or Snap On Modis.  Can someone shed some recent light on there experience with either?  Any recommendations?</p>
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		<title>By: dennisb on scan tool comparison</title>
		<link>http://www.denlorstools.com/autoblog/2008/07/new-otc-diagnostic-scan-tool-pegisys/comment-page-1/#comment-627</link>
		<dc:creator>dennisb on scan tool comparison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, &quot;The Truth&quot; really hurts... if that&#039;s your real name. 

Usually when we have an anonymous comment on a post, there&#039;s something someones trying to hide (ie a competitor like Snap On). I have nothing against Snap On tools, it&#039;s just that not everyone can afford their prices. And I would be quite surprised if the Verus with a $8995.00 price tag, didn&#039;t have some advantages over the OTC Pegisys at $4999. I to have used personality keys in the past, its not a big deal if you have the one you need and it&#039;s not worn out from repeated use. It used to really peeve me, although I had a whole key-chain full of personality keys, there would always be new one needed at the most inopportune moment. I really like the fact that the Genisys with a Smart module never required the purchase of additional keys to access different cars and systems.  

The advantages of the Pegisys over the Genisys that sticks out to me, is the Internet capability for updates and Identifix, wireless capability, the DVD-quality MPEG4 monitor and the ability to flash vehicles computers. 

And if you want to flash vehicles computers with the Snap On Verus, be sure to purchase the Pass Thru Module - $1,595.00, That puts the Snap On Verus with the capability of flashing at $10,590, the OTC Pegisys is capable of flashing at a cost of $4999, less than 1/2 the cost of the Verus - and that&#039;s the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, &#8220;The Truth&#8221; really hurts&#8230; if that&#8217;s your real name. </p>
<p>Usually when we have an anonymous comment on a post, there&#8217;s something someones trying to hide (ie a competitor like Snap On). I have nothing against Snap On tools, it&#8217;s just that not everyone can afford their prices. And I would be quite surprised if the Verus with a $8995.00 price tag, didn&#8217;t have some advantages over the OTC Pegisys at $4999. I to have used personality keys in the past, its not a big deal if you have the one you need and it&#8217;s not worn out from repeated use. It used to really peeve me, although I had a whole key-chain full of personality keys, there would always be new one needed at the most inopportune moment. I really like the fact that the Genisys with a Smart module never required the purchase of additional keys to access different cars and systems.  </p>
<p>The advantages of the Pegisys over the Genisys that sticks out to me, is the Internet capability for updates and Identifix, wireless capability, the DVD-quality MPEG4 monitor and the ability to flash vehicles computers. </p>
<p>And if you want to flash vehicles computers with the Snap On Verus, be sure to purchase the Pass Thru Module &#8211; $1,595.00, That puts the Snap On Verus with the capability of flashing at $10,590, the OTC Pegisys is capable of flashing at a cost of $4999, less than 1/2 the cost of the Verus &#8211; and that&#8217;s the truth.</p>
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